sonic x amy, does he realy love her Options

[sonicamy1215]

i dont know if sonic realy loves amy because on episode 52 he
gave her a flower but why did he wink at her say i love you i mean realy maby he said dont cry or something

[Kevin]

well the lip sync for "I love you amy" certainly fitted so we assume that's what he said

[blue_the_hedgeho...]

Yeah plus I think I hear somwhere thats what Sonic Team whated him to say but for some reson there mute it

[GameBuddy]

You never know, though, he could have meant the, I-love-you-like-a- little-sister,-and-I-wouldn't-ever-let-anyone-hurt-you,-and-we-can-be- best-friends-forever,-girlfriend!-knid of love.

[Guest_Artie Milano_*]

Jake said something funny on another topic

Sonic didn't say "I love you," by the way. It was muted out, so for all we know, he could have said, "Sorry, Amy, I'm just pretending to love you, but I really don't like you," or, "I love Eggman!" or... yeah. Okay, I really don't believe he said those things, but you get the idea, anyway. Is it possible that he could have said that? Yes. But I'm just going by what is given to me, not by what I want from the Sonic World.

[Turrican II]

You know, I really don't think they'd create a character who spends the entire series, both VG and Anime, pining for her one love, and then have those feelings never ever be returned.

It's just too cruel. The way the story has been going, the only two possiblities is either Sonic admitting that he loves her too, or Amy becoming a wasted emotional wreck on the verge of suicide. And the latter is a far too grim scenario for a group of video game characters aimed at the younger generation.

Furthermore, there's the events of the episode itself. Amy gives Sonic an ultimatum: Does he love her or not? Yes or no? If you can imagine an answer other than "I love you" that would have Amy overjoyed like that, then you're a better writer than I am.

So in the Sonix X continuum, I don't think there's any way you could spin the story to not have Sonic love Amy and still avoid the pitfalls of grim not-aimed-at-kids type angst.

Same probably goes for the game contiuum, but it doesn't seem likely that the relationship will ever reach a point there because Sonic Team really wants to continue the series and they can't risk jumping the shark before an end nears inevitability.

That's my 2 cents.

[JezMM]

People use the phrase "That's my two cents" far too much.

Excellent points there Owen, I never thought of that.

And that's my two cent.....enses.

EDIT: Oops, sentences*. Spelling mistake. n.n

[Turrican II]

Thanks.

But I think people should be allowed to use the phrase 2 Cents if they actually are offering their 2 Cents (their thought-out insight into a specific matter). It's only when people use the phrase just for the sake of using it that it should be discouraged.

[Guest_Jake_*]

Sonic doesn't love Amy. That's already a given fact.

Now, Amy on the other hand is very debatable. I believe that she doesn't love Sonic, but rather, she wants him. She's a mindless (well, she used to be mindless, but lately - with the exception of Sonic Heroes - Amy has been developing her own character) fangirl, after all. She doesn't actually show her love for Sonic, nor admit it. Amy is a very open girl - she isn't afraid to say what she thinks. So... why doesn't she say that she loves Sonic? Even in episode 52 she was showing that she admired him, and was begging him to love her, but what about what she thought? What about her feelings. We never hear them. Ever.

[Kai]

You know, I really don't think they'd create a character who spends the entire series, both VG and Anime, pining for her one love, and then have those feelings never ever be returned.

It's just too cruel. The way the story has been going, the only two possiblities is either Sonic admitting that he loves her too, or Amy becoming a wasted emotional wreck on the verge of suicide. And the latter is a far too grim scenario for a group of video game characters aimed at the younger generation.

Furthermore, there's the events of the episode itself. Amy gives Sonic an ultimatum: Does he love her or not? Yes or no? If you can imagine an answer other than "I love you" that would have Amy overjoyed like that, then you're a better writer than I am.

So in the Sonix X continuum, I don't think there's any way you could spin the story to not have Sonic love Amy and still avoid the pitfalls of grim not-aimed-at-kids type angst.

Same probably goes for the game contiuum, but it doesn't seem likely that the relationship will ever reach a point there because Sonic Team really wants to continue the series and they can't risk jumping the shark before an end nears inevitability.

That's my 2 cents.

Yep, agreed. Excellent points there. Besides, it's what I want to believe anyway, and that's good enough for me.

[Guest_Jake_*]

Owen: Furthermore, there's the events of the episode itself. Amy gives Sonic an ultimatum: Does he love her or not? Yes or no? If you can imagine an answer other than "I love you" that would have Amy overjoyed like that, then you're a better writer than I am.

Who knows? If Sonic said that, then I doubt it was more than a friendship love or a sibling love, because Sonic doesn't try hiding any of his "feelings" for Amy throughout the series. I figured that the reaspn he was emotional towards Amy in episode 52 was because he had to leave Chris behind, which made him a bit less ignorant and more open-minded towards Amy, but not necessarily up to the point of true love. However, I'm just someone who is fighting against the Sonic and Amy pairing, so what do I know, eh.

Anyway, despite my opinion different from yours, you really do bring up great points, and I acknowledge that.

[Turrican II]

Oh, come on. The girl uses the word romance practically all the time. Romance = love. And the innumerable fantasy sequences have lubby-dubbiness written all over them. Amy's feelings are written all over the screen in gigantic neon letters.

Please explain how you think admiration would convince someone to spend the rest of their life waiting for someone without ever moving on, because if that's not an act of real love, then I don't know what is. And I DO know what is. Trust me on this.

All you basically know about Sonic is that he'd rather run away than show any emotion even remotely sensitive (but not always, both with Chris as with Amy at the end). Him not loving Amy is not a given fact, and neither is him loving her a given fact. Because you can't prove one or the other conclusively based on the current evidence. I'm just saying that with the way the story is presented in Sonic X it is a heck of a lot more likely that he loves her than the opposite.

EDIT: Yeah, I'm responding to the first message by Jake, not the second one here. Just so there's no confusion.

[Guest_Jake_*]

Owen: Oh, come on. The girl uses the word romance practically all the time. Romance = love. And the innumerable fantasy sequences have lubby-dubbiness written all over them. Amy's feelings are written all over the screen in gigantic neon letters.

Growing up in the society I'm currently living in, I hardly find Amy's feelings to be true. Not to say that they're completely false - yes, I do believe that Amy loves Sonic to an extent - but Amy needs a bit more enlightment on the subject, really.

Owen: All you basically know about Sonic is that he'd rather run away than show anything emotion even remotely sensitive.

That's quite true, I'm afraid. Sonic is one of the most undeveloped characters in the Sonic World, and my automatic assumption of him is to keep running away, whether he believes it's the right thing to do or not. I admit that I would love to see Sonic as a more emotional guy than he is now, but his view towards Amy is so obvious. He might not dislike Amy, but he doesn't love her; Sonic is also to blame in the relationship. He's too self-centered and involved in adventuring to really think about it. If he does love Amy, then he would never understand it fully, because he just can't.

[sonicamy1215]

but then how would the new series turn out since if they like each other

[Guest_Jake_*]

sonicamy1215: but then how would the new series turn out since if they like each other

Well, if Sonic really did say, "I love you" to her (even though I'm against that idea, it really is hard to come up with a better-fitting line for that scene), then Sonic would probably still feel uncomfortable around her, though would obviously accept her much more than he did in the previous 52 episodes (if there is going to be more episodes, which I doubt). I don't think their relationship would be expanded on, however, simply because Sonic Team are in control of that department.

[Turrican II]

but then how would the new series turn out since if they like each other

Been wondering about that myself. I foresee two possibilities:

1) The cowardly approach: They just completely disregard Sonic's confession as if it never happened and go to extreme lengths to avoid having either Sonic or Amy ever mention his return in the new episodes. The good part to this is that it lets the story continue at the same pace that we've grown accustomed to, and Sonic can continue to be his arrogant unemotional self for 99% of the time. The bad part is that it completely destroys the plot value of Episode 52.

2) The character development approach: Apparently the makers really don't want a major romance development with Sonic, but they should at least be able to have him handle somewhat his apparent fear of commitment. Amy could still lament that Sonic won't give her any time as his fear of touchy-feely stuff would rather have him knocking off Eggman in his spare time. The good part to this is that it's a whole lot better writing overall and Sonic can finally get some depth to his character. The bad part is that it has to be executed properly or the fans won't like it at all, which could really damage the show, so it's riskier.

[Guest_Jake_*]

Owen: 1) The cowardly approach: They just completely disregard Sonic's confession as if it never happened and go to extreme lengths to avoid having either Sonic or Amy ever mention his return in the new episodes. The good part to this is that it lets the story continue at the same pace that we've grown accustomed to, and Sonic can continue to be his arrogant unemotional self for 99% of the time. The bad part is that it completely destroys the plot value of Episode 52.

This one is a lot more probable than the second. Disregarding the game continuity for a bit, Sonic X always seems to forget about the previous episode(s) and their meanings. Take a look at the episode with Emerl's final appearance. Cream was screaming with tears, and in the next episode, she's back to normal, without even sulking about the whole durn thing in the first place. There are other instances, such as the whole "Knuckles not guarding the Master Emerald anymore" case and the Sonic Adventure series (though Chris was a bit said after Shadow died in the next episode), but meh.

[Turrican II]

Owen: 1) The cowardly approach: They just completely disregard Sonic's confession as if it never happened and go to extreme lengths to avoid having either Sonic or Amy ever mention his return in the new episodes. The good part to this is that it lets the story continue at the same pace that we've grown accustomed to, and Sonic can continue to be his arrogant unemotional self for 99% of the time. The bad part is that it completely destroys the plot value of Episode 52.

This one is a lot more probable than the second. Disregarding the game continuity for a bit, Sonic X always seems to forget about the previous episode(s) and their meanings. Take a look at the episode with Emerl's final appearance. Cream was screaming with tears, and in the next episode, she's back to normal, without even sulking about the whole durn thing in the first place. There are other instances, such as the whole "Knuckles not guarding the Master Emerald anymore" case and the Sonic Adventure series (though Chris was a bit said after Shadow died in the next episode), but meh.

I know it's more likely. They'll probably also find some way to get Chris back into the series (thus dashing my hopes twice over).

I find it really depressing that they're almost certain to choose the risk-free approach instead of actually trying to make a better story. God forbid that any of the characters should get some development that actually carries over to the next episode .

[Guest_Etinogard_*]

Personally i belive it up to the viewer to decide what they think was said, the line was muted and you cant realy lipread a drawing.

[Guest_smellslikechidna_*]

The lip flap matched perfectly, "Suki da ze, Amy" which, in Sonic's accent/dialect [he uses the more masculine form of Japanese, and therefore refers t himself as 'Ore', where Shadow calls himself 'Boku'], translates to "I [really] like you, Amy".

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[foofoofoofoo]

No. No he does not. He still doesn't. And will continue not to.

[Guest_EvilLaugh_*]

This debate is stupid, Sonic does care about Amy because repeatedly in her bio, it mentions him saying he has a soft spot for her but doesn't show it.

[Guest_Jake_*]

I don't see anything wrong with the Sonic and Amy debate. Admittedly it is kind of silly to be arguing about two characters who don't exist, but people have "opinions" about the whole idea, thanks to boredom and being completely lifeless (well, some of us, anyway). So, yeah.

[Guest_Tails0_*]

Sonic doesn't love Amy. That's already a given fact.

Now, Amy on the other hand is very debatable. I believe that she doesn't love Sonic, but rather, she wants him. She's a mindless (well, she used to be mindless, but lately - with the exception of Sonic Heroes - Amy has been developing her own character) fangirl, after all. She doesn't actually show her love for Sonic, nor admit it. Amy is a very open girl - she isn't afraid to say what she thinks. So... why doesn't she say that she loves Sonic? Even in episode 52 she was showing that she admired him, and was begging him to love her, but what about what she thought? What about her feelings. We never hear them. Ever.

I TOTALLY agree with Jake. Sonic doesn't love Amy. in my opinion, they probably did that to make the ending more interesting but truthfully Sonic will never love Amy. She is jsut his fan-girl and will always be his fan-girl.

[Guest_Jake_*]

I wouldn't say that he would never love her, but I think that Sonic will never fully love her, if he ever even comes close to those kinds of feelings (which I'm praying will never happen). He's just being a jerk to her a lot.